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Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 4, 2021 11:09 AM
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I don't think Adam was suggesting that we start recording associated country in 551.  He noted that we currently put it in the 370$c.  The LC-PCC Task Group on Element Labels in beta RDA Toolkit recommended against using element labels when there is a one-to-one match with existing bibliographic and ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 4, 2021 9:46 AM
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'country associated with person of' is constructed in exactly the same way as all other inverse element labels.  It is clear that RSC has tried to be consistent with this pattern.  It is true that almost all of these  inverse element labels could instead have been constructed by flipping the subject ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 2, 2021 1:18 PM
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Interesting questions.  I suppose it might be possible to continue using a single NAF heading for both place and government, using the definitions of the relationships to distinguish which applies in each instance.  But that would be a discussion for LC/PCC.  RDA itself must distinguish them to align ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 2, 2021 12:07 PM
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We could also have: 151   United States (place) 551   $w r $i Jurisdiction governed of: $a United States (government) 151   United States (government) 551   $w r $i Jurisdiction governed: $a United States (place) ------------------------------ Stephen McDonald Digital Initiatives Librarian Tufts ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 2, 2021 11:55 AM
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Adam, Here's where we get into the problems of Place vs. Corporate Body that Robert brought up.  To properly reflect RDA, we would need something like: 151   District of Columbia (place) 551   $w r $i Jurisdiction governed of: $a United States (government) 151   United States (government) 551   $w ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 2, 2021 11:38 AM
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I see.  So the current toolkit element 'jurisdiction governed' is not the same as the attribute with the same name in the original toolkit.  Instead, this would be used, for example, in the name authority record for a corporate body which is a government, and the definition needs to be changed to reflect ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 2, 2021 11:22 AM
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Thank you, Gordon. Rephrasing to be certain that I understand correctly:  the domain of 'jurisdiction governed' and the range of 'jurisdiction governed of' should be Work, but we shouldn't use either element anyway because they do not align well with LRM.  Currently they are top-level elements, not ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 2, 2021 9:06 AM
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Thank you, Gordon.  I'm glad to see that the 3R project has clarified the meaning of jurisdiction.  The current definition of 'jurisdiction governed' and 'jurisdiction governed of' matches my interpretation of the 'jurisdiction governed' in the original toolkit, with jurisdiction being a Place and government ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Aug 1, 2021 4:35 PM
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That does look odd.  In the old toolkit, the element with this name is clearly a relationship between a law (work) and a jurisdiction (place).  The work would have a relationship to the government enacting the law (creator) and a relationship to the place to which the law applies (jurisdiction governed). ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Apr 16, 2021 2:16 PM
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At the moment, it is indeed mostly hypothetical.  Almost no one is actually using the new RDA Toolkit for active cataloging.  The Library of Congress and PCC are still working on policy statements and workflows for the new Toolkit.  They have not yet set a date for adoption of the new Toolkit.  In the ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Apr 16, 2021 12:48 PM
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I believe the intent is that documents like that can be shared globally as Kathy described, just as those in the previous version of the toolkit.  Someone just needs to write them, which has not happened yet. ------------------------------ Stephen McDonald Digital Initiatives Librarian Tufts University ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Mar 5, 2021 1:48 PM
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I don't see the additional instructions on the page for Person: name of person, so I'm not sure where that link was supposed to lead. However, you should be aware that RSC is removing all instructions describing string encoding schemes (such as how to formulate an authorized access point) out of element ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Feb 2, 2021 10:03 AM
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Actually, your question and Gordon's answer did clarify things for me.  Gordon's explanation is useful for the specific information and application to the new RDA toolkit, but I found the need to, er, dumb it down to in my own head because I won't be able to recall all of that to explain to someone else. ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Feb 2, 2021 9:42 AM
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In simpler terms, I believe dumb-up means "losing some metadata detail" (dumb) "by classing information at a higher level of the heirarchy" (up). ------------------------------ Stephen McDonald Digital Initiatives Librarian Tufts University ------------------------------
Posted By Stephen McDonald Feb 1, 2021 9:58 AM
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Thank you, Gordon.  That detailed explanation does clarify things in my own head. It occurs to me that there are quite a few elements that the 3R project considers legacy which could be better handled by other elements.  Might it be useful to create a list of these elements?  If an implementation were ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Jan 25, 2021 3:08 PM
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Heidrun, I could follow your thoughts.  And I think it's a good question.  With a quick look, it does seem to me that all of those should be narrower elements of title of manifestation.  Perhaps further thought or someone else's perspective will give another answer, but it's a good question to raise. ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Dec 21, 2020 10:48 AM
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I should actually say that there are guidance pages for coherent description, minimum description, and effective description.  But the guidance for effective description just says that it meets the mimimum description plus additional elements determined in application profiles, policy statements, cataloger's ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Dec 21, 2020 10:37 AM
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I believe Core Elements has been replaced by the concept of minimum descriptions.  The guidance page for minimum description is at Guidance >  Resource description  >  Minimum description of a resource entity .  Most of what used to be Core Elements would now be specified in metadata application ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Dec 21, 2020 10:11 AM
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That appears to be the case.  See the LC-PCC implementation plan: https://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/documents/PoCo-2020/newRDA%20ImpementationPlanNov2.pdf.  In it, you will that testing will occur before implementation, and that LC will test using the BIBFRAME editor.  It also notes that "LC hopes to implement ...
Posted By Stephen McDonald Dec 18, 2020 3:36 PM
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Right.  Or you could go narrower and do: Naipaul, V. S., 1932–  is author person of  Naipaul, V. S., 1932– . A bend in the river.  ------------------------------ Stephen McDonald Digital Initiatives Librarian Tufts University ------------------------------