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Greetings to the collective wisdom of RDA-L,

I over 30 years, I've never encountered this before.

I have a 1972 facsimile edition of Pen Pictures of Early Pioneer Life
in Upper Canada. I know from my 2013 RDA printouts to use the
facsimile edition and publication information, but couldn't find any
guidance on this problem.

No author is give on the title page, which reads:

Pen Pictures of
Early Pioneer Life in
Upper Canada
by
A "Canuck"
(Of the fifth generation)
Profusely illustrated
Toronto
William Briggs
1905

On the verso of the dedication page is the note:
Entered according to Act of the Parliament of Canada, in the year one
thousand nine hundred and five, by Michael Gonder Scherck, at the
Department of Agriculture.

Based on this note, and the fact that a 2004 edition clearly
identifies the author as Michael Gonder Scherck, should I give him due
credit in 100a, perhaps with a 500 or 588 note?

Thank you,
Nancy Braman



--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
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Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
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There are 33 records for this title in WorldCat, for editions ranging from 1905 to 2022.  Almost every record records Scherck, Michael Gonder, 1861- or Scherck, Michael Gonder, 1861-1928 as the authorized form of the author.  There is no authority record in the LC Name Authority File for the author, but Michael Scherck has been clearly established as the author.  You should use Scherck, Michael Gonder, 1861-1928 in your 100 field.

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Stephen McDonald
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Tufts University
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Original Message:
Sent: Jun 15, 2023 11:20 AM
From: Nancy Braman
Subject: Question about a facsimile edition

Greetings to the collective wisdom of RDA-L,

I over 30 years, I've never encountered this before.

I have a 1972 facsimile edition of Pen Pictures of Early Pioneer Life
in Upper Canada. I know from my 2013 RDA printouts to use the
facsimile edition and publication information, but couldn't find any
guidance on this problem.

No author is give on the title page, which reads:

Pen Pictures of
Early Pioneer Life in
Upper Canada
by
A "Canuck"
(Of the fifth generation)
Profusely illustrated
Toronto
William Briggs
1905

On the verso of the dedication page is the note:
Entered according to Act of the Parliament of Canada, in the year one
thousand nine hundred and five, by Michael Gonder Scherck, at the
Department of Agriculture.

Based on this note, and the fact that a 2004 edition clearly
identifies the author as Michael Gonder Scherck, should I give him due
credit in 100a, perhaps with a 500 or 588 note?

Thank you,
Nancy Braman



--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.

By the way, the title page _does_ list an author: A "Canuck" (Of the fifth generation).  If we did not know the real name of the author, we could use that as basis of the authorized name of the author.  If you are using the Original Toolkit, see 9.2.2.25 and the associated LC-PCC Policy Statement.

------------------------------
Stephen McDonald
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Tufts University
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 15, 2023 11:20 AM
From: Nancy Braman
Subject: Question about a facsimile edition

Greetings to the collective wisdom of RDA-L,

I over 30 years, I've never encountered this before.

I have a 1972 facsimile edition of Pen Pictures of Early Pioneer Life
in Upper Canada. I know from my 2013 RDA printouts to use the
facsimile edition and publication information, but couldn't find any
guidance on this problem.

No author is give on the title page, which reads:

Pen Pictures of
Early Pioneer Life in
Upper Canada
by
A "Canuck"
(Of the fifth generation)
Profusely illustrated
Toronto
William Briggs
1905

On the verso of the dedication page is the note:
Entered according to Act of the Parliament of Canada, in the year one
thousand nine hundred and five, by Michael Gonder Scherck, at the
Department of Agriculture.

Based on this note, and the fact that a 2004 edition clearly
identifies the author as Michael Gonder Scherck, should I give him due
credit in 100a, perhaps with a 500 or 588 note?

Thank you,
Nancy Braman



--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.

Hello Stephen,

Thank you for both replies. I hadn't considered using "Canuck (Of the
fifth generation)" as the author... As per your first reply, I'll be
using Scherck, Michael Gonder, 1861-1928 as the author. Neither
Canuck nor Scherck is in VIAF, which is where I usually go.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to the RDA Toolkit but I do have
printouts from 2013's free trial and updates from the JSC website.

Thanks again,
Nancy Braman


--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.


Original Message:
Sent: 6/15/2023 1:34:00 PM
From: Stephen McDonald
Subject: RE: Question about a facsimile edition

By the way, the title page _does_ list an author: A "Canuck" (Of the fifth generation).  If we did not know the real name of the author, we could use that as basis of the authorized name of the author.  If you are using the Original Toolkit, see 9.2.2.25 and the associated LC-PCC Policy Statement.

------------------------------
Stephen McDonald
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Tufts University
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 15, 2023 11:20 AM
From: Nancy Braman
Subject: Question about a facsimile edition

Greetings to the collective wisdom of RDA-L,

I over 30 years, I've never encountered this before.

I have a 1972 facsimile edition of Pen Pictures of Early Pioneer Life
in Upper Canada. I know from my 2013 RDA printouts to use the
facsimile edition and publication information, but couldn't find any
guidance on this problem.

No author is give on the title page, which reads:

Pen Pictures of
Early Pioneer Life in
Upper Canada
by
A "Canuck"
(Of the fifth generation)
Profusely illustrated
Toronto
William Briggs
1905

On the verso of the dedication page is the note:
Entered according to Act of the Parliament of Canada, in the year one
thousand nine hundred and five, by Michael Gonder Scherck, at the
Department of Agriculture.

Based on this note, and the fact that a 2004 edition clearly
identifies the author as Michael Gonder Scherck, should I give him due
credit in 100a, perhaps with a 500 or 588 note?

Thank you,
Nancy Braman



--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.

Dear Nancy,

A "Canuck" is a pseudonym for Michael Gonder Scherck according to Abe books: https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Pen-Pictures-Early-Pioneer-Life-Upper/18657158961/bd

So I think if you decided to record Michael Gonder Scherck in field 100, you might add in his authority a 400 with his pseudonym.

I used to follow this guidelines when it comes to creating authority files for pseudonym: https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/pseud.pdf

I think it will be helpful in your case to check it.

Have a nice day.

Best Regards,

Ghada Dimashk

Librarian, American University of Beirut

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Ghada Dimashk
American University of Beirut
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 15, 2023 12:51 PM
From: Nancy Braman
Subject: Question about a facsimile edition

Hello Stephen,

Thank you for both replies. I hadn't considered using "Canuck (Of the
fifth generation)" as the author... As per your first reply, I'll be
using Scherck, Michael Gonder, 1861-1928 as the author. Neither
Canuck nor Scherck is in VIAF, which is where I usually go.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to the RDA Toolkit but I do have
printouts from 2013's free trial and updates from the JSC website.

Thanks again,
Nancy Braman


--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.


Original Message:
Sent: 6/15/2023 1:34:00 PM
From: Stephen McDonald
Subject: RE: Question about a facsimile edition

By the way, the title page _does_ list an author: A "Canuck" (Of the fifth generation).  If we did not know the real name of the author, we could use that as basis of the authorized name of the author.  If you are using the Original Toolkit, see 9.2.2.25 and the associated LC-PCC Policy Statement.

------------------------------
Stephen McDonald
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Tufts University

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 15, 2023 11:20 AM
From: Nancy Braman
Subject: Question about a facsimile edition

Greetings to the collective wisdom of RDA-L,

I over 30 years, I've never encountered this before.

I have a 1972 facsimile edition of Pen Pictures of Early Pioneer Life
in Upper Canada. I know from my 2013 RDA printouts to use the
facsimile edition and publication information, but couldn't find any
guidance on this problem.

No author is give on the title page, which reads:

Pen Pictures of
Early Pioneer Life in
Upper Canada
by
A "Canuck"
(Of the fifth generation)
Profusely illustrated
Toronto
William Briggs
1905

On the verso of the dedication page is the note:
Entered according to Act of the Parliament of Canada, in the year one
thousand nine hundred and five, by Michael Gonder Scherck, at the
Department of Agriculture.

Based on this note, and the fact that a 2004 edition clearly
identifies the author as Michael Gonder Scherck, should I give him due
credit in 100a, perhaps with a 500 or 588 note?

Thank you,
Nancy Braman



--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.

Hello Ghada,

Thank you for this--the link made interesting reading. Unfortunately,
our system doesn't have authority records (hence, my frequent
consultation with VIAF). Thee is a module for creating them, but I
haven't been trained in creating or working with them. Maybe I should
do some more research on the subject and then experiment a bit...

Thank you again,
Nancy Braman




--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.


Original Message:
Sent: 6/19/2023 1:19:00 AM
From: Ghada Dimashk
Subject: RE: Question about a facsimile edition

Dear Nancy,

A "Canuck" is a pseudonym for Michael Gonder Scherck according to Abe books: https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Pen-Pictures-Early-Pioneer-Life-Upper/18657158961/bd

So I think if you decided to record Michael Gonder Scherck in field 100, you might add in his authority a 400 with his pseudonym.

I used to follow this guidelines when it comes to creating authority files for pseudonym: https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/pseud.pdf

I think it will be helpful in your case to check it.

Have a nice day.

Best Regards,

Ghada Dimashk

Librarian, American University of Beirut

------------------------------
Ghada Dimashk
American University of Beirut
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 15, 2023 12:51 PM
From: Nancy Braman
Subject: Question about a facsimile edition

Hello Stephen,

Thank you for both replies. I hadn't considered using "Canuck (Of the
fifth generation)" as the author... As per your first reply, I'll be
using Scherck, Michael Gonder, 1861-1928 as the author. Neither
Canuck nor Scherck is in VIAF, which is where I usually go.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to the RDA Toolkit but I do have
printouts from 2013's free trial and updates from the JSC website.

Thanks again,
Nancy Braman


--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.


Original Message:
Sent: 6/15/2023 1:34:00 PM
From: Stephen McDonald
Subject: RE: Question about a facsimile edition

By the way, the title page _does_ list an author: A "Canuck" (Of the fifth generation).  If we did not know the real name of the author, we could use that as basis of the authorized name of the author.  If you are using the Original Toolkit, see 9.2.2.25 and the associated LC-PCC Policy Statement.

------------------------------
Stephen McDonald
Digital Initiatives Librarian
Tufts University

Original Message:
Sent: Jun 15, 2023 11:20 AM
From: Nancy Braman
Subject: Question about a facsimile edition

Greetings to the collective wisdom of RDA-L,

I over 30 years, I've never encountered this before.

I have a 1972 facsimile edition of Pen Pictures of Early Pioneer Life
in Upper Canada. I know from my 2013 RDA printouts to use the
facsimile edition and publication information, but couldn't find any
guidance on this problem.

No author is give on the title page, which reads:

Pen Pictures of
Early Pioneer Life in
Upper Canada
by
A "Canuck"
(Of the fifth generation)
Profusely illustrated
Toronto
William Briggs
1905

On the verso of the dedication page is the note:
Entered according to Act of the Parliament of Canada, in the year one
thousand nine hundred and five, by Michael Gonder Scherck, at the
Department of Agriculture.

Based on this note, and the fact that a 2004 edition clearly
identifies the author as Michael Gonder Scherck, should I give him due
credit in 100a, perhaps with a 500 or 588 note?

Thank you,
Nancy Braman



--
Nancy Braman
Library Technician, Malcolm Munroe Memorial Middle School
Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for Education
902-562-6804

"Lead life so that you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the
town gossip."--Will Rogers

This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or con
fidential information of the Cape Breton-Victoria Regional Centre for
Education and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not
the intended recipient, you should delete this communication,
including any attachments without reading or saving them in any
manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based
on it, is strictly prohibited.