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  • 1.  Request for Comment: Discussion paper on soft-deprecated parallel elements

    Posted Nov 18, 2025 04:31 PM
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    Below is a brief background for this discussion paper. Please see the attached for the full proposal and comment no later than Monday, December, 22, 2025.

    Background

    The RSC has been examining the possibility of fully deprecating the soft-deprecated elements in RDA, including the parallel elements (for prior discussions see RSC/TechnicalWG/2-23/2 ; RSC/Minutes/413-443/datecorrected Items 415 and 417 ; RSC/Minutes/508-520 Item 518 ; and RSC/Minutes/521-537 Item 523). The following discussion paper is an attempt to look at how cataloging might work if the parallel elements in RDA were fully deprecated and no longer available for use.  



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    Karl Pettitt
    Coordinator of Cataloging and Metadata Services
    University of Denver Libraries
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  • 2.  RE: Request for Comment: Discussion paper on soft-deprecated parallel elements

    Posted 11 days ago

    I feel conflicted about the deprecation of parallel elements. On the one hand, the examples in the discussion paper demonstrate that cataloging outcomes (at least in MARC) could remain essentially the same as our current status quo. Deprecating the elements would also have the effect of streamlining the RDA element set, which is already quite large.

    However, I do think the loss of parallel elements could have a negative effect on how users identify and understand resources. In many cases, one language does predominate in a multilingual work, even if very slightly. Duplicating the Manifestation: title proper element, for example, to accommodate parallel titles wouldn't capture this aspect of the resource. Using Manifestation: other title information or Manifestation: variant title of manifestation similarly doesn't capture the prominence of a parallel title on a source of information versus other kinds of titles or title information.

    Expanded use of manifestation statements to represent a resource with greater accuracy is useful in theory but challenging in practice. It is true that manifestation statements preserve information in multiple languages in the order and context in which it is found in a source. But what about the role of layout and typography? The order of text on a resource is not the only indication of what is a title proper, and a manifestation statement cannot generally capture the visual nuances. What about cartographic and visual materials, in which information is often scattered across the resource? Our cataloger's judgment guides us in using the "sequence, layout, or typography of the source of information" (a phrase that appears often in the Toolkit) to make decisions about the information we record. 

    From a rare materials perspective, I want to believe that manifestation statements will provide a more accurate representation of a source of information than is available otherwise. But it is common for early printed and other types of rare materials to have long and complex titles, statements of responsibility, and publication statements. This means that catalogers would have to enter the same information twice but not in exactly the same way, once for the manifestation statements and once for the more structured elements (e.g., title proper, designation of edition, etc.). (Manifestation statements alone don't make for a user-friendly display.) This will almost certainly invite errors, which is exactly what we're trying to avoid in our descriptions, especially for rare materials.  We are also limited by the typographical facilities available to us. It is unlikely, for example, that we could reproduce things like early modern letterforms, brevigraphs, and symbols in a manifestation statement. If we could digitize and accurately OCR every source of information, we could more easily generate manifestation statements (or supply the digitized resource as a sort of replacement for a manifestation statement). But we're certainly not there right now.

    Although the paper notes that the National Library of New Zealand has opted not to use parallel elements, I find it telling that no other policy statement sets in Official RDA have followed suit. For example, of the eight policy statements published for Manifestation: parallel title proper, seven have opted to use the element, even though the option to use Manifestation: title proper instead has been available for years. I realize that deprecating parallel elements would result in a "cleaner" element set, but if parallel elements are still in active use and they don't contradict the LRM, I don't see the utility in deprecating them at this time.



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    Jessica Grzegorski
    Rare Materials Metadata Librarian
    Northwestern University Libraries
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 3.  RE: Request for Comment: Discussion paper on soft-deprecated parallel elements

    Posted 11 days ago

    Coming at this from a generalist perspective, I can support deprecating these parallel elements. However, I much prefer the first scenario, which would treat each parallel element as an instance of the "real" element (two instances of title proper, two instances of designation of edition, etc.) rather than approaching these dual or multiple instances by designating one effectively as the "main" one and others as variants.

    I see this as similar to what Official RDA did with later and earlier titles proper -- they are now all simply instances of a title proper. 

    I think that identifying a main vs. parallel element can sometimes reflect a language or culture bias. How do we make the decisions now for in selecting the title proper with a tête-bêche or a head-to-tail bound volume?

    With all this being said, I do recognize the concerns that Jessica has raised in relation to rare materials. 



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    Kathy Glennan
    Director, Cataloging & Metadata Services
    University of Maryland Libraries
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  • 4.  RE: Request for Comment: Discussion paper on soft-deprecated parallel elements

    Posted 10 days ago

    I agree with Kathy's point about one parallel title not necessarily being predominant over the other.  In law this is very common with treaties, which often have official versions in more than one language.  However, I'm wondering if this will have any impact on the preferred title elements.  I would think we would still need to choose one of the languages to use as the preferred title.  Does this need to be addressed in the proposal, or is it totally unrelated?

     

    Thank you,

     

    Christopher Thomas

    Head of Cataloging

    UCLA Law Library

    thomasc@law.ucla.edu

     






  • 5.  RE: Request for Comment: Discussion paper on soft-deprecated parallel elements

    Posted 10 days ago

    I agree with the previous comments. I appreciate the desire to clean up the list of elements. Reducing the number of elements will reduce the burden on new catalogers just learning about RDA. This also will help streamline non-MARC cataloging, and allow you to give equal preference to parallel elements by using the SAME element.

    It does feel like this proposal would cause confusion if implemented, as Jessica mentioned, especially if given the option to either duplicate elements like the title proper, or call one version a variant. I agree with Kathy that the first option is much preferrable and should be stated as the preferred recording option.



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    Shelby Anderson
    Manager, Catalog Management Unit
    Yale University
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  • 6.  RE: Request for Comment: Discussion paper on soft-deprecated parallel elements

    Posted 10 days ago

    As much as I also appreciate the desire to clean up the list of elements, I agree with others that the first option of recording multiple instances of title proper (instead of designating one as the main title proper and others as variant) would be the most preferable and invite the least amount of confusion.  That said, Jessica raises valid concerns about the affect these proposed changes would have on cataloging rare materials were they to be implemented.



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    Chelsea Hoover
    MLA Liasion to CC:DA
    Catalog Librarian of Music
    Syracuse University Libraries
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  • 7.  RE: Request for Comment: Discussion paper on soft-deprecated parallel elements

    Posted 9 days ago

    This also relates to points raised about multilingual works, such as treaties, where multiple official language versions exist. For genuinely multilingual works, each language version of a title or statement might best be treated as a full instance of the element, as in Scenario 1. For single-language works with elements presented in multiple languages, a variant or string encoding scheme could suffice.  Probably clarifying this distinction could help guide consistent and accurate cataloging practices.



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    Iman Dagher
    Arabic & Islamic Studies Metadata Librarian
    UCLA Library. Resource Acquisitions & Metadata Services
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 8.  RE: Request for Comment: Discussion paper on soft-deprecated parallel elements

    Posted 6 days ago
    Edited by Timothy Mendenhall 6 days ago

    I agree with some of the concerns raised about this discussion paper by others in this forum, including Jessica Grzegorski.  It strikes me that entirely removing parallel elements would perhaps complicate practical implementations of RDA. If we are deprecating "parallel" elements, would it not be logical to deprecate all other qualified elements (e.g. the various "variant" title elements, the various "title proper" elements, etc.) ?  I don't feel like the discussion paper sufficiently establishes the rationale for deprecating these parallel elements, although I understand that this was a decision made during the 3R project.  I would be more supportive of this paper if it provided a general mechanism for communities to distinguish between different types of elements (titles, edition statements, etc.).  For example, a community could possibly use a Nomen:Category of nomen qualifier to distinguish between different kinds of titles, edition statements, etc.  Using Categories of nomen could help solve some of the bloat in the total number of RDA elements while enabling local communities to develop vocabularies for things like types of title, types of edition statement; this approach would be both linked-data friendly AND compatible with the granularity of many current implementations which distinguish between title proper, parallel title, etc. etc.  Without providing such a mechanism, the discussion paper jettisons this nuance, and leaves it to local cataloging communities to figure out their own mechanisms for retaining this nuance while remaining compliant with RDA.  This could lead to a wide variety of incompatible approaches, which is surely not a desirable outcome.



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    Timothy Ryan Mendenhall (he/him)
    Metadata Librarian, Columbia University
    CORE Metadata Interest Group Liaison to CC:DA
    trm2151@columbia.edu
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