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Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

  • 1.  Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 11, 2024 02:28 PM

    Good morning, 

    I am writing to inform you that after repeated attempts to contact the past convener to find a new convener for the Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group, ACRL staff received no response. The group has not met in over two years. ACRL staff has made three separate attempts to reach the most recent Convener, with no response. Due to the inability to find leadership, and contact the most recent convener, ACRL staff are requesting the group be dissolved. 

    According to the ACRL Guide to Policies and Procedures, ACRL may request the dissolution of a discussion group if the group fails to appoint a leader and/or meet at the two ALA conferences during the previous year. 

    ACRL has not received an appointment acceptance form for a leader of the  Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group and will request that the ACRL Board dissolve the discussion group at the 2024 Annual Conference unless leadership can be confirmed before that time. 

    Best regards,
    Aleah Price, Program Coordinator 



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    Aleah Price
    American Library Association
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  • 2.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 12, 2024 08:34 PM

    Dear Collleagues:

    It would appear that unless one of us steps forward, then the Discussion Group will end.  Since I'm the lead person at my university for Research Metrics, I would be very sorry to see this group end.  Could we share our thoughts on whether or not we want the group to continue?

    Matt



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    Matthew Marsteller
    Principal Librarian, Engineering & Science
    Carnegie Mellon University
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  • 3.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 13, 2024 09:21 PM

    I am graduating from an ALA accredited program in May, and I have an interest in library assessment. I would like to see this resource continue.

    Esther 



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    Esther Dowell
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  • 4.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 14, 2024 02:28 PM

    Esther,

    First, congratulations on all of your hard work coming to fruition.  New colleagues are a welcome sign.  Your mention of library assessment prompts me to ask a question I've always had about this Discussion Group (a group I haven't been particularly active in, I must confess).  Does this group deal with library assessment or research assessment done by libraries?  Or, perhaps both?  Can someone enlighten us?

    Matt



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    Matthew Marsteller
    Principal Librarian, Engineering & Science
    Carnegie Mellon University
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  • 5.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 14, 2024 11:34 PM
    Hi Matt and all,
    This group was started a few years ago by Jim Morris-Knower. I was the convener a few years back and I worked a lot with Jim on setting up the group, getting it going, and planning programming.  I am a little surprised to see that the group is not active. It seems that traction/momentum was lost.  We had a membership of more than a thousand on the list at one point, and before the pandemic we had in-person meetups at ALA and Midwinter and had good turnouts for our programs/discussions. We had a program on global issues in bibliometrics/P&T issues for one conference where Juan Pablo Alperin was our speaker.  We were starting to see the position of "Research Impact Librarian" show up at some research libraries toward the end of my time as convener. When my term as convener was over, I had passed the responsibilities on to the next conveners but have not seen any discussions of late. Maybe this discussion here on the list can lead to some consensus on whether there is some reason why a discussion group focused on research impact has not done well or gained more traction.

    The topic of this dedicated discussion group is more "research impact," bibliometrics, and discussion of the products that universities are using in that space (like Pure, Incites, WoS, Scopus), and now would include products from Digital Science like Dimensions and open tools like Open Alex (I would think).  Demonstrating societal impact is a growing area. Maybe RIM system implications would be included. This would still seem to be of huge and growing interest and most research libraries have services in these areas. I don't know what happened but will try to see what I can find out. All input and feedback is very useful to making sure this group does not die unless there is truly no interest. Maybe someone here would like to step forward to be convener, or two people could share that role.
    Just ideas.

    Thanks,
    Laura Mullen

    Laura Bowering Mullen (she/her)

    Behavioral Sciences Librarian; Open Access Specialist

    Rutgers University-New Brunswick

    Library of Science and Medicine

    165 Bevier Road, Piscataway, NJ  08854-8009

    lbmullen@rutgers.edu








  • 6.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 15, 2024 08:46 PM

    Hi, Laura,

     

    Thanks for sharing the background; I definitely remember when this group was more active. I volunteered at an informational table for the group during a conference event pre-pandemic (at ACRL, I think). One of the things I noticed during that event is that a lot of people who saw the word "assessment" in the group's name came over eagerly asking questions about assessment of libraries, assessment of instruction, stuff like that – and many of them were disappointed when I explained that it was more about assessment of research, or as you said, research impact. So I do wonder if maybe the exact wording of the group name has caused some confusion (folks with differing expectations either not joining, or else joining and then leaving).

     

    I for one would really like to see this group more active again-a lot of the other content I follow for these types of topics (e.g., lis-bibliometrics) is not really US-centered, and while I definitely get value from them, I also have to sift past a lot of content focused on things like REF in the UK. That being said, I will also point out that some posts on research impact topics have come up in the ACRL ScholCom group.

     

    In any case, I am tentatively willing to step up to help the group stay afloat-assuming that others agree that it's purpose is still needed and wanted-but I'd love it if someone wanted to join me as co-convener, so that it wouldn't feel like quite so much of a lift for either of us.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Erin Owens (she/her/hers)

    Professor, Access Services Coordinator & Scholarly Communications Librarian

    Associate Editor (Research Articles), Evidence Based Library & Information Practice

    Newton Gresham Library | Sam Houston State University

    SHSU Box 2179, Huntsville, TX 77341

    936-294-4567 | eowens@shsu.edu

    Schedule an appointment! https://shsu.libcal.com/appointments/owens

    View my ORCID Researcher Profile: http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9520-9314

     

    My work hours are sometimes flexible - so while it may suit me to email outside normal working hours, I do not expect a response or action outside of your own working hours.

     

     






  • 7.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 16, 2024 11:50 PM

    Hi Laura,

    Thanks for sharing the background information! I have joined this group for a while and always try to figure out what the group is focused on! I, like Esther, graduated from the MLIS program last year. During my casual work in different universities, I grew interested in open science, research data management, and research impact. I hope this will be a place for a discussion on research impact. 

    I would love to contribute to the group, but I wonder what a co-convener's responsibility is. 



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    Dandi Wang
    Student
    University of Alberta
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  • 8.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 15, 2024 07:58 AM
    Hi everyone - I am one of the co-conveners (along with Susanna Cowan from UConn and Megan Hodge from VCU) for the ACRL Assessment Discussion Group. We are focused primarily on Library Assessment, but would certainly welcome additional topics of discussion in that group. Please feel free to join us over there if you'd like!

    Anita R. Hall
    Assessment & Analytics Librarian
    University of Louisville Libraries






  • 9.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 14, 2024 04:38 PM
    I would love to be a part of a discussion about this.  I'm not up to speed enough to know if this is being discussed in other groups though?

    Sincerely,

    TRACEY HUGHES, MSI
    Library Director, Steamboat Campus
    970.870.4445 x4451 office /  tshughes@coloradomtn.edu
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  • 10.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 18, 2024 09:25 AM
    Hi all,
    I am also happy to contribute but am not quite sure how! 
    I looked through the ALA/ACRL bylaws and found a few sections of note. 
    It sort of seems that the discussion group leadership had to supply processes to the board. It seems there is support in keeping the group going. Do we start with reaching out to the board?
    I'm happy to do that, but don't want to overstep any boundaries. 
    Best,
    Kat
     



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    Kathryn Brooks
    Collections Strategist
    University of Tennessee
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  • 11.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 18, 2024 10:47 AM

    Hello all,

    I would love to be a part of a discussion group like this. I'm new to librarianship - I started as a research librarian in Dec 2023 - but I'd be happy to help keep the group up and running however I'm able.

    All the best,

    Norm



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    Norman Lee
    Research, Outreach, and Engagement Librarian
    The University of Idaho
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  • 12.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 18, 2024 11:11 AM
    There has been a wonderful response to this call for interest in keeping the Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group going. Two or three librarians, members of ALA, leading this discussion group would be a wonderful result. I checked back a little on the history of this group. When I was convening it, it was an Interest Group, which has maybe a few more aspects, such as putting on programs at conferences, etc. It had transitioned to a Discussion Group in recent years. 

    It wrote to Aleah at ALA with questions, but maybe if she could just reply here with procedures for those that would like to express interest in co-leading/convening the discussion group, that would be great. We have at least three librarians interested in possible leadership roles with the discussion group and that would be a great ending to this story, IMO. There is great interest at present in all areas of research impact, societal impact, equity in research assessment, bibliometrics, etc etc and the focus of this discussion group will only grow in importance. Maybe over time, the group can build up to the next level.

    Aleah, what are next steps to sign up new leadership? We have interest in positions and in the continuation of the discussion group. Please let us know!
    Thanks,
    Laura Mullen


    Laura Bowering Mullen (she/her)

    Behavioral Sciences Librarian; Open Access Specialist

    Rutgers University-New Brunswick

    Library of Science and Medicine

    165 Bevier Road, Piscataway, NJ  08854-8009

    lbmullen@rutgers.edu








  • 13.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 18, 2024 08:59 PM

    Thank you Laura!

    It will be good to see the group active again.  I'm also glad to see younger librarians stepping forward.  We need their energy!  Hopefully we can also include some virtual activity as well - traveling has become difficult at this stage of life.

    At our university, we have access to Scopus/Scival, WoS and Dimensions.  We also use Symplectic Elements as our RIM and our branded version of Figshare (Kilthub) as a data and document repository.  We have four people trying our best to run a service with a small fraction of our time each.   We have some other tools like Altmetric Explorer and Scite.ai.  It's a real challenge to keep on top of them all.

    Matt



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    Matthew Marsteller
    Principal Librarian, Engineering & Science
    Carnegie Mellon University
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  • 14.  RE: Research Assessment and Metrics Discussion Group Dissolution

    Posted Mar 19, 2024 01:46 PM