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Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

  • 1.  Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 02, 2021 05:46 PM

    Hello all, 

    My name is Laura Birkenhauer and I'm the Chair of the NMRT Online Discussion Forum Committee. Our committee's May 2021 topic is What I Didn't Learn in Library School.

    I hope you'll take the time to participate - right here in Connect! - by responding to this post and sharing your experiences in answer to some of the discussion questions below: 

    • What course(s) do you wish you'd had the opportunity to take as part of your library school coursework, and why? (this could be a course that was offered that didn't work with your schedule, a course offered as part of another school's program, a course you've dreamed up all on your own, etc.) 
    • Outside of formal education, how else did you acquire  the skills and knowledge to succeed in librarianship? (personal development, mentoring, service to the profession, volunteering, on-the-job experiences, etc.)
    • What advice do you have for new or recent library school graduates in terms of continuing education? 

    I look forward to hearing from the NMRT community on this month's discussion topic!



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    Laura Birkenhauer
    Student Success Librarian for Campus Engagement
    Miami University Libraries
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  • 2.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 03, 2021 07:58 PM
    In library school, I wish I learned more about hands-on customer service. How to deal with difficult patrons, different familial issues, ways to best approach situations etc. etc. etc.

    Emily Mroczek (Bayci)
    Freelance Children's Librarian
    Woodridge, IL





  • 3.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 13, 2021 08:34 AM
    That would have been a great class to take. I learned the hard way when working in a pharmacy. There were always difficult people to work with and I usually ended up crying on my way home. Luckily, I don't have to deal with difficult patrons or situations. We just pass it on to our Director.

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    Shannon Bowman
    Science Research Librarian
    Ralph W Steen Library - Stephen F Austin State University
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 4.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 05, 2021 10:06 AM
    Hi Everybody,

    In library school, I wish I would have learned more about collection development. The course that taught that subject didn't work with my school schedule. Instead, I acquired this knowledge while working at my first librarian job.

    Emily Blakowski
    Adult Services Librarian
    Clarkston Independence District Library







  • 5.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 05, 2021 08:34 PM
    I wish I'd taken more in depth cataloging classes.

    I just took the intro course.

    I learned my cataloging knowledge through continuing Ed classes and on the job.

    Liz





  • 6.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 12, 2021 08:25 AM
    The introduction to cataloging wasn't required for my degree, but I did end up taking it. I felt like the messaging was that every library is different, so much of the learning has to occur once you're on the job. The intro course still gave me the kind of overview I needed to understand more about the systems and the history of it. I'm afraid if I had an advanced course in it, then obtained a cataloging position, I would have had trouble adjusting to the way the library did their cataloging. I was working in a public library while I took the course and knew that my library system had a lot of different methods than the standards being taught.

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    Jessica Kirk
    Reference - Senior Librarian
    Arkansas State Library
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 7.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 21, 2021 11:15 AM
    Jessica, 

    I also took a cataloging class even though it wasn't required. A lot of what I learned really frustrated me as far as how our classification systems works, how slow it is to change, and how unintuitive it is for patrons. Then there's the fact that the rules are more like guidelines, and you're right that every library and every librarian has a different idea of how to classify an item. I wish there were even consistent standards in my library co-operative. 
    I'm really glad I took the course though, it made me realize I really have to be knowledgeable about books in all kinds of genres and reader's advisory tools to make my reader's advisory effective. If I tried to rely on a catalog search for afro-fantasy books, historical mystery books, or lgbtq fiction, I would not get good results.

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    Melanie Laurance
    Library Specialist
    Hoover Public Library
    melanie.laurance@hooverlibrary.org
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 8.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 12, 2021 08:16 PM
    I did take cataloging in school and struggled so much in the class. I learned to catalog on the job and it was so much easier than class for some reason 🙃
    Lauren

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    Lauren Puzier
    User Experience Librarian
    University at Albany
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  • 9.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 21, 2021 11:02 AM
    Emily, 

    I was able to take a collection development class, and it was good for general information and hammering home ideals (have a diverse collection that caters to your community's needs, weed collections even though it's painful, etc.) and for introducing us to a few of the big vendors we may purchase items from. They also had us mock up a budget, and that was helpful except we didn't have a limit so... But as far as the practical stuff like HOW do you assess what your community needs, HOW do you make sure your collection is diverse, HOW do you determine what to weed, all that had to be learned on the job, and you have to operate within your organization's goals, procedures, and budget as well. There's so much you just have to learn on the job.

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    Melanie Laurance
    Library Specialist
    Hoover Public Library
    melanie.laurance@hooverlibrary.org
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 10.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 05, 2021 01:03 PM

    Hello everyone!

     

    I took a collection development course in my program, but I wish it focused more on how to build a collection with limited funds instead of approval programs and no real budget. My first job outside of grad school, I was a collection development librarian with a very tiny budget and had to somehow balance multiple subject areas and competing voices. I also wish there had been a practical, "How to fix printing issues, etc." because when you are working in a small library, you are the IT person responsible for helping students figure out how to make technology work and function properly.

     

    I feel like I learned my most valuable skills through my cataloging internship, previous public service positions, and working with my ALCTS mentor. I definitely recommend signing up for a mentorship program sponsored through ALA or a local association because without my mentor, I do not think I would have read as much current literature or gone to some conferences. Plus, it's just amazing to have a mentor in your corner cheering you on and encouraging you.

     

    In terms of continuing education, in my first two years outside of grad school, I took advantage of scrolling ALCTS webinar archive and any free webinars that came across my email. Keeping up with current literature is also a good way to broaden your knowledge.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Kim Cull (she/her)

    Rare Book Project Cataloger

    Albert and Shirley Small Special Collections Library

    170 McCormick Road

    Charlottesville, VA 22904

    kc6ws@virginia.edu

     






  • 11.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 06, 2021 05:53 AM
    I think coursework on the job market and matching real-world job duties to course assignments might have been valuable.

    Getting as much experience as possible outside of the classroom was really important for me, both for learning and helping secure a job later.  I did volunteer cataloging at my public library, a four internships (federal records management; federal public health library; academic digital library, and NGO library). I also took small contract projects in knowledge management and research.   All of this was so that I could get exposed to as many environments and types of work as possible.  It wasn't that easy, but I recommend doing any small thing that gives you extra experience and exposure.  

    For continuing education, keep participating in professional communities, attend as many webinars and conferences as make sense for your budget (even better if your organization will pay!). If you can't attend conferences, access presentations online and reach out to presenters if you want to learn more about their area of expertise...some people are very willing to help their professional community if asked. 
    If there is a skill you want to learn in your job, don't be shy to think of a project and propose it. The worst that can happen is a no, but it still shows initiative. And, if you can continue to do any volunteer or contract work on the side, it always helps. I have sometimes just cold-emailed a library or organization that I'm interested in to see if they need a volunteer. Sometimes places don't have time to reach out, but so many need the help. 

    Go libraries!

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    Karen Carter
    Digital Librarian
    DoD OIG
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  • 12.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 06, 2021 08:08 AM
    I wish I had learned more about research methods! I'm in a tenure track position, and I felt very overwhelmed the first couple of years when I went to write articles. I luckily have several colleagues who walked me through how to get IRB approval, craft a survey, etc., but I would have loved to take a class where all of this was explained to  me ahead of time.

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    Jennifer Wilhelm
    Business Librarian
    Texas A&M University
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 13.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 12, 2021 08:18 PM
    Oh yes, I agree. Learning more about research methods would have been super valuable. I would have liked to learn more about the publication process and scholarly communication in general.
    Lauren

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    Lauren Puzier
    User Experience Librarian
    University at Albany
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  • 14.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 11, 2021 10:53 AM
    Really great to hear from everyone's who's chimed in so far! So far: customer service, collection development, cataloging, job market, research methods.

    I never took a course on library instruction in school, and I very much learned to teach on the job, by reading up on the topic, observing coworkers teaching, and by taking webinars/continuing education on the topic! If I could go back in time, that would be the course I'd take if I could do it all over again.

    What do others think?

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    Laura Birkenhauer
    Student Success Librarian for Campus Engagement
    Miami University Libraries
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  • 15.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted May 12, 2021 08:18 AM

    I just finished Instructional Librarianship in my last semester of my M.L.S. and I would say it was one of the most applicable courses I took and I'm not even an academic librarian. I can't imagine not having taken it and have routine teaching requirements.



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    Jessica Kirk
    Reference - Senior Librarian
    Arkansas State Library
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 16.  RE: Online Discussion Forum May 2021 Topic: What I Didn't Learn In Library School

    Posted Jun 01, 2021 10:06 AM
    Thanks to everyone who participated in the May 2021 discussion! This month, we chatted about "What I Didn't Learn in Library School" and participants shared the following: 
    • cataloging
    • collection development
    • customer service
    • instruction
    • job market
    • research methods
    I'll share more in an upcoming blog on NMRT Notes. In the meantime, check out Joy Dubose's blog on last month's topic: Getting Involved in Library Service and be on the lookout for the June discussion topic (our final 2020-2021 discussion)!

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    Laura Birkenhauer
    Student Success Librarian for Campus Engagement
    Miami University Libraries
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