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WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

  • 1.  WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 23, 2022 08:50 AM

    Good morning! Please forgive cross-posting. Worldcat has had a banner announcing their pending website redesign for weeks, and I looked forward to seeing what they'd come up with. After logging in and transferring my lists and favorites, I was disheartened to discover that of 10, only 4 of my favorite libraries were listed. My own system, Miami-Dade County Public Library (the 7th largest in the nation according to recent data from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, Public Libraries Survey) does not appear in search results any longer.

    This is particularly dismaying because several websites patrons use to discover books, including Goodreads, link directly to WorldCat as a link that says "Libraries". If we cannot be found there, the public could think we simply do not have the item they want.

    When you click on the "For Librarians" tab on WorldCat and then the "web visibility program" link, you will the following graphic:
    Diagram: Web visibility explainedThis change from a free listing of library collections to an apparent pay-for-play model will cause many systems like mine to be bypassed when their patrons are looking for items online unless they go directly to our website. Unfortunately, this discourages the organic discovery of books through "partner" websites, like the aforementioned GoodReads, and Wikipedia. I would love to hear the thoughts of others about this issue: has anyone gotten pricing for their own system? Do you believe it to be worth the money? Isn't this TERRIBLE? lol

    Thank you for time. --Shaunterria Owens, Youth Services Specialist, Miami-Dade Public Library



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    Shaunterria Owens
    Youth Services Specialist
    Pinecrest Branch Library - MDPLS
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 2.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 24, 2022 08:49 AM
    The "redesign" is so bad. I use WorldCat every day at work - I am adding a library collection to Populi so that students can stop using a three ring binder sign out sheet to check out books - and many of these books are incorrectly cataloged, so it helps to see how the previous librarian classified them versus how they're classified at NLM or OCOM. I used to just scan the barcode and see all the information on one page and easily click through to the NLM or OCOM Primo system, but now WorldCat uses my location I'm in instead of the location I set, and it takes more clicks to find things like ISBNs and library catalogs. It's dreadful!! Everything used to be so user friendly and intuitive and I'm glad you brought it up.

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    Royal Montgomery
    Librarian
    Atlantic Institute of Oriental Medicine
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 3.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 24, 2022 08:24 PM
    I agree; this new design is unintuitive!

    I'm a cataloger, and I often try to click on other institutions' records to check out uniform titles of sheet music records or the correct name heading of a producer for a video record if these records are not in Classification Web.

    However, now I have to click on each library's page twice to find their record.

    The new design also makes it harder to scroll through search results and filter by material format.

    Sincerely,

    Elizabeth Boniface 





  • 4.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 26, 2022 08:58 AM

    Hi Elizabeth,

     

    I saw you mentioned Classification Web.  Alas, I am sad to say I have never heard of it.  It is something which has to be paid for to use?

     

    Angela Klocek

    Technical Services Senior Librarian

    St. Clair County Michigan

    210 McMorran Boulevard

    Port Huron MI 48060

    Direct: 1-810-201-6360

    1-810-987-7323 x2507

     






  • 5.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 24, 2022 02:57 PM

    Has anyone tried looking at search results in this monstrosity? It is pretty but, Not As Efficient when one wishes to view and compare multiple records from various institutions. Why did they "fix" something that was not broken?



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    Carl Parham
    Cataloging Librarian
    South College
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  • 6.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 25, 2022 07:24 AM
    I agree. I am still trying to understand the advantage of this new UI. What really horrifies me is the "Featured Library" vs. "All Libraries." There are no links to "All Libraries" libraries, therefore the patron has to perform a Google search for the catalog. "Featured Libraries" catalogs are linked for the patron. Now we have to pay a premium to become a "featured library?" No. This is a reverse innovation. OCLC has lost their minds.  We are trying to increase accessibility, not build barriers. Yep, OCLC, I'm looking right at you.

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    Brady Cross
    Digital Initiatives Librarian
    Tri-County Technical College Learning Commons Library
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  • 7.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 25, 2022 08:28 AM
    Edited by Jenny Groome Aug 25, 2022 08:28 AM
    First - I want to say that a free and public WorldCat is great. I remember when access was only by subscription.
    Second - speaking ONLY for myself.

    I stopped by OCLC booth during ALA to see the redesign. I gave them comments then.  They seemed to appreciate the problem with limiting location by distance. We searched a title that I knew was held only by the Connecticut State Library. Since we were in DC, and Hartford was more than 50 miles away, the results said no libraries held the item. I asked if they could have some sort of default so if less than (50, 20, etc.) libraries are recorded as holding item, then the results automatically eliminate default distance limit. It is important when less common titles, such as state or municipal publications, are held by only a few libraries. I explained that it isn't about the library, but the patron experience. The results may be technically accurate - but the appearance is misleading. And how many patrons check the default settings of a database?
    The pay for placement was never mentioned to me. It is not clear on the results (at least Google indicates pay-for-placement in results).
    Here is a search I did for the Connecticut Register & Manual - which is held by the Connecticut State Library in Hartford, CT and is available online in several repositories.
    WorldCat decided I was in Merrimack, NH. When I changed my location to Hartford, CT - the results were still for Merrimack. None of the online holdings displayed. When I switched to All Libraries - other CT holdings displayed, but not the CT State Library (which is closer to Merrimack than at least two of the CT libraries listed).
    This does not serve the user.
    At ALA I was told there are options to customize settings for searching within your library system. I pointed out that it doesn't help if the patron is at another library. If they were here, they would probably use our catalog and get more detailed information. When a patron calls for help, and has searched with different default settings, I can't easily replicate their search.  It's not as hard in chat, where I can share my screen - but over the phone it will be difficult for both patron and librarian.
    At ALA I was told that FirstSearch is still available for researchers and library staff - WorldCat was more for general public.
    No matter the audience - it's not good to have misleading results from a reputable database.
    Again - speaking ONLY for myself.


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    Jenny Groome
    Reference/Government Documents/Instruction
    Connecticut State Library
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 8.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 25, 2022 04:54 PM

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the new WorldCat.org. We appreciate it. We are tracking all feedback and will take it into consideration as we enhance the site moving forward. We invite you to share your impressions at oc.lc/new-worldcat-org-input or join us at an upcoming webinar.

     To address a couple of items that we have heard from library staff here and in other discussion groups:

     Why the redesign?org has been available to the public since 2006 and the site has undergone minimal design changes since then. There were important fundamental updates related to mobile-ready and accessibility issues and we also wanted to reach a larger audience of people who may not currently think of libraries as a place to discover information on the web. More information about the redesign can be found on oclc.org.

    • Why didn't I know? We've taken many steps to both include library staff in our process and to communicate a change was coming. Starting at the end of March, we made the new site available to all libraries who were already on WorldCat.org and asked them to use the site and provide feedback. We also held several webinars where we discussed the new site design and held live demonstrations at PLA and ALA, all with positive feedback. And since mid-July, the WorldCat.org interface displayed a message that a new WorldCat.org site was coming.
    • Did OCLC take libraries away? There are some questions around which libraries are visible on the site. Historically, WorldCat.org has only included libraries who had both a cataloging and a FirstSearch/WorldCat Discovery subscription. As part of the new design, we added all libraries that have a cataloging subscription only to the "All libraries" tab to let people know that they can find those items at the listed libraries. We also added new subscription options that make our web visibility program available to more libraries.

    We know that when a favorite site or tool changes, it takes time to adjust. We appreciate everyone who provided input along the way as we finalized the new site. And we value ongoing input. Please feel free to share your ideas with us directly at oc.lc/new-worldcat-org-input.

     

     

     



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    Sonya Thelin
    Product Marketing Manager
    OCLC
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  • 9.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 26, 2022 09:48 AM
    The link to register for webinar doesn't seem to be working

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    Jenny Groome
    Reference/Government Documents/Instruction
    Connecticut State Library
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 10.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 26, 2022 10:02 AM
    The link to register for webinar doesn't seem to be working

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    Jenny Groome
    Reference/Government Documents/Instruction
    Connecticut State Library
    She/Her/Hers
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  • 11.  RE: WorldCat's Recent "Redesign"

    Posted Aug 26, 2022 10:39 AM
    The webinar registration appears to be working now.

    Just in case you are still having trouble reaching that page, here is another link:  Register for 9/1 webinar

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    Sonya Thelin
    Product Marketing Manager
    OCLC
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