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RE: Philosophy Reference Question

	From:	Jordan Sly

	To:	History Librarians Interest Group

	Posted:	Oct 06, 2021 11:51 AM

	Message:	Yes, the Constitution is separated into difference books, so IV is book 4 and 157 is line 157 Now, that said, when you look at the Loeb version, it doesn't include Book IV, but you can see an example of the line number and book numbering here, https://archive.org/details/athenianconstitu00arisuoft/page/358/mode/2up If you have a physical copy of the work, you may have better luck leafing through to find the chapter/verse of it. This copy from the Liberty Fund does have book IV, but it is more difficult to use since it doesn't use the line numbering https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/580/0232_Bk.pdf , but Chap 4 is on page 16 of the pdf and 6 of the work Hope this helps!! Best, Jordan ------ Jordan S. Sly Anthropology, Psychology, Philosophy, DH, and SLLC Librarian for French, Italian, German University of Maryland Libraries McKeldin Library, office 4239 Ph.D. Student, University of Maryland Dept. of History Affiliate Faculty, University of Maryland iSchool Reviews Editor, Library Quarterly Chair, ESS Romance Languages Section jsly@umd.edu \| +1 301-405-9290 (office) \| Schedule a Consultation \| @jordanssly // jordansly.com // trpnp.org ------------------------------------------- Original Message: Sent: 10/6/2021 11:15:00 AM From: Regina Vitolo Subject: RE: Philosophy Reference Question Hi Jordan, Thanks so much! Any idea why the citation would be abbreviated in this format (Athen. IV 157c)? Regina Elizabeth Vitolo, M.L.S. ------------------------------------------- Original Message: Sent: 10/6/2021 10:38:00 AM From: Jordan Sly Subject: RE: Philosophy Reference Question Hello Regina, I believe this is a reference to Aristotle's Athenian Constitution or the Constitution of Athenians Best, Jordan ------ Jordan S. Sly Anthropology, Psychology, Philosophy, DH, and SLLC Librarian for French, Italian, German University of Maryland Libraries McKeldin Library, office 4239 Ph.D. Student, University of Maryland Dept. of History Affiliate Faculty, University of Maryland iSchool Reviews Editor, Library Quarterly Chair, ESS Romance Languages Section jsly@umd.edu \| +1 301-405-9290 (office) \| Schedule a Consultation \| @jordanssly // jordansly.com // trpnp.org ------------------------------------------- Original Message: Sent: 10/6/2021 10:03:00 AM From: Regina Vitolo Subject: Philosophy Reference Question Greetings! I know this listserv is for History librarians, but I'm hoping to get some help with a reference question. I'm the temporary liaison for the philosophy department at my college, and I'm stumped by a reference question. I'm trying to track down the abbreviated source referenced in an article citation. The citation that appears in the article is: Athen. IV 157c. Through my search, I have determined that this source refers to Euxitheos the Pythagorean quoting Clearchus (Klearkhos) of Soli. It's also referenced in this JSTOR article. However, I have not been able to determine what the Athen. abbreviation is referencing as the primary source so that I can verify the citation. Every work that I have searched looking for the Athen. IV 157c reference does not provide any further indication on what the full classical work is. Even my reference works on classical abbreviations omit this work. I would guess that it is a collection of fragments since I did find a few other ancient philosophers referenced to the same source in different books and sections. Any help in tracking down information on the abbreviated source referenced would be greatly appreciated. TIA! Regina Elizabeth Vitolo, M.L.S.